I know this is not popular, and I do not like Microsoft for many reasons, but if I had to choose between linux and microsoft…I’d still choose MS. The UX is so much better. Linux still has a long way to go. I’ve been using linux on the side since slackware in the 90’s -> today Debian and raspbian.
Update #1 : I knew this wasn’t going to be a popular opinion, and honestly…I don’t care/mind the downvotes? (What does that do anyways??:-)) Regardless, to me I get more done on windows than on linux cause there are more apps for it. With Linux, you either have to search for it in some cryptic repo, and then finding those dependencies…then find the conflicts…or worse have to compile it with some cryptic ass commands…no thanks. Double-click on the EXE or MSI and go. Linux also doesn’t just work out of the box, you really have to monkey with it quite a bit. Drivers are a pain. It’s just simply not there yet. I hope it get’s there. MS is not perfect, but it is one neck to choke!
Of all the reasons to debate Windows > Linux you chose UX. Windows UX sucks, whereas Linux can be just about anything you can image with a little effort.
Windows 11 still has its settings splattered across multiple applications. The Settings application has all the shiny new gimmicks they added, yet still lacks any way to change some basic settings. If you need to reset a local user’s password, you’re stuck going back into the now-gutted Control Panel to do it. And if you want to change something that Microsoft feels the average user shouldn’t be allowed to know exists, you’re using the group policy editor to do it.
Or, how about the way that there’s at least two applications installed by default that do the same or very similar things? Windows Media Player or Videos? Paint or Paint 3D? Cmd.exe or Windows Terminal?
How about the design language inconsistency? The Run dialog was left looking like a Windows 7 dialog and didn’t get a dark mode until the mid 2020s. The Event Viewer and Windows Firewall UIs are still something right out of Windows XP, but with Vista-smeared paint applied on top.
Or, if that’s not bad UX, then how about the ads in the start menu? Or how OneDrive tries to trick you into uploading your desktop to the cloud? Or, maybe all the telemetry services running in the background and slowing shit down?
If you’re using a distro with a worse UX than that, then that’s on you. There’s plenty of options that provide a more cohesive UX than Windows
To be fair, the UI Control Panel of Windows has become more and more fragmented. Windows 11 is slowly transitioning different settings into the Settings App. It’s going slow and I have no idea if Microsoft will ever finish the job. When Windows 11 was first released, Settings had so many shortcuts to Control Panel elements that it was totally useless. My thoughts (hope) are that Windows 11 is what Windows Vista was - a transition that would be a bloody mess - and at some point Windows 12 will come and people will like it because they reintroduce elements that people miss and fix some of these inconsistencies.
But how things are run, it will probably be filled with even more reasons to ditch Windows.
Gnome. On windows, I think getting things done is easier. Setup is easier(being well supported by vendors). No need to hunt down for cryptic dependencies or commands just to get sound or graphics running right. No compatibility issues with windows.
The main problem with Windows (regarding GUI, there are many other issues) is that it’s never consistent. It changes with the mood of Microsoft’s execs and their need to set the trend, while at the same time having a pretty poor grasp of what the trend is. Look at Windows XP, Vista, 7 and then Win 8. Where’s the consistency? The nice thing about Linux is that you don’t have people on top telling you what the system to control your (“this”) computer will look like, whether you like it or not. On Linux, you control how your system will look, feel and behave. It’s your computer.
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I know this is not popular, and I do not like Microsoft for many reasons, but if I had to choose between linux and microsoft…I’d still choose MS. The UX is so much better. Linux still has a long way to go. I’ve been using linux on the side since slackware in the 90’s -> today Debian and raspbian.
Update #1 : I knew this wasn’t going to be a popular opinion, and honestly…I don’t care/mind the downvotes? (What does that do anyways??:-)) Regardless, to me I get more done on windows than on linux cause there are more apps for it. With Linux, you either have to search for it in some cryptic repo, and then finding those dependencies…then find the conflicts…or worse have to compile it with some cryptic ass commands…no thanks. Double-click on the EXE or MSI and go. Linux also doesn’t just work out of the box, you really have to monkey with it quite a bit. Drivers are a pain. It’s just simply not there yet. I hope it get’s there. MS is not perfect, but it is one neck to choke!
you can run most of those windows apps under wine
Can’t tell if rage bait or actual dumbass
none of the above…try again…it’s okay, take your time.
Actual dumbass
Of all the reasons to debate Windows > Linux you chose UX. Windows UX sucks, whereas Linux can be just about anything you can image with a little effort.
I think the user experience on windows is way better than linux. It’s not perfect, but linux is even farther from where windows is currently.
Windows UI is just one giant cluster of dark patterns.
Windows’ UX is shit.
Windows 11 still has its settings splattered across multiple applications. The Settings application has all the shiny new gimmicks they added, yet still lacks any way to change some basic settings. If you need to reset a local user’s password, you’re stuck going back into the now-gutted Control Panel to do it. And if you want to change something that Microsoft feels the average user shouldn’t be allowed to know exists, you’re using the group policy editor to do it.
Or, how about the way that there’s at least two applications installed by default that do the same or very similar things? Windows Media Player or Videos? Paint or Paint 3D? Cmd.exe or Windows Terminal?
How about the design language inconsistency? The Run dialog was left looking like a Windows 7 dialog and didn’t get a dark mode until the mid 2020s. The Event Viewer and Windows Firewall UIs are still something right out of Windows XP, but with Vista-smeared paint applied on top.
Or, if that’s not bad UX, then how about the ads in the start menu? Or how OneDrive tries to trick you into uploading your desktop to the cloud? Or, maybe all the telemetry services running in the background and slowing shit down?
If you’re using a distro with a worse UX than that, then that’s on you. There’s plenty of options that provide a more cohesive UX than Windows
To be fair, the UI Control Panel of Windows has become more and more fragmented. Windows 11 is slowly transitioning different settings into the Settings App. It’s going slow and I have no idea if Microsoft will ever finish the job. When Windows 11 was first released, Settings had so many shortcuts to Control Panel elements that it was totally useless. My thoughts (hope) are that Windows 11 is what Windows Vista was - a transition that would be a bloody mess - and at some point Windows 12 will come and people will like it because they reintroduce elements that people miss and fix some of these inconsistencies.
But how things are run, it will probably be filled with even more reasons to ditch Windows.
Well, I never said windows was perfect…just the better / faster solution of the two options to get things done.
…are you still on Windows 10 by any chance? Because Windows 11’s UI and UX is atrocious, by design.
Windows 11, but 10 was pretty good too. Honestly I really enjoyed windows 8. My favorite is 98se.
Lol now I get the joke.
The Windows UX is horrible. What desktop environment do you use on Linux, that you think that Windows is better? :D
Gnome. On windows, I think getting things done is easier. Setup is easier(being well supported by vendors). No need to hunt down for cryptic dependencies or commands just to get sound or graphics running right. No compatibility issues with windows.
They said they use Debian, I assume it’s KDE2 or something.
Actually Debian stable has KDE6, unlike Ubuntu LTS.
The main problem with Windows (regarding GUI, there are many other issues) is that it’s never consistent. It changes with the mood of Microsoft’s execs and their need to set the trend, while at the same time having a pretty poor grasp of what the trend is. Look at Windows XP, Vista, 7 and then Win 8. Where’s the consistency? The nice thing about Linux is that you don’t have people on top telling you what the system to control your (“this”) computer will look like, whether you like it or not. On Linux, you control how your system will look, feel and behave. It’s your computer.
In my experience consistency is not Linux strong suite. Especially when getting things done, you need to be comfortable with archaic commands.
In your very limited experience it seems…
Downvote should not be a disagreement button.
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Says who? I used to hear this on reddit too, but in the end people will just use them as like/dislike.
I can’t prevent you from doing that, but there’s a use that fosters interesting discussion, and one that just fosters insufferable arguments.