Been keeping a keen eye on Bazzite as it seems like a good distro for people like myself who mainly use the desktop pc to play games on. But it doesn’t seem like a “typical” distro for a daily driver? How does Bazzite for example differ from Nobara which is another gaming-oriented distro? I’m just curious as I keep hearing good things about Bazzite, and wondering if there would be any benefit as to someone who is using Tumbleweed, to switch to Bazzite right now.

So, if you are a Bazzite user, or have experience: let me know how it went, and if you could daily drive it!

Edit: I guess the same could be asked for ChimeraOS?

  • Pantherina@feddit.de
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    4 months ago

    I am not a fan because they install all that WINE stuff on the system level which is a huge security degradation.

    Running WINE through Bottles with the latest protonGE through PupGUI works on all distros.

    If they removed that I would consider it.

    Also they remove Firefox and Flatpak Firefox can only use seccomp filters, not sandboxes, which less secure. And due to an rpm-ostree issue those removed packages are never reinstallable.

    • d3Xt3r@lemmy.nzM
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      4 months ago

      I am not a fan because they install all that WINE stuff on the system level which is a huge security degradation.

      I disagree with this. Sure, it could be made more secure, but Wine, on it’s own isn’t, any greater security risk compared to any other scripting runtime such as say Python, which is also installed at the system level. Ultimately it’s up to the user to get their executables from trustworthy sources - and whether it’s a random bash script or an exe, doesn’t really make a difference.

      As for Firefox, if you’re truly concerned about security then you wouldn’t be using it in the first place, you’d be using Librewolf, which you can install without any issues.

      • atzanteol@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
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        4 months ago

        Haven’t you heard? Anything that isn’t flatpak is completely insecure and will end in your computer being hacked. It will also break the next time you update your computer.

        /s

    • quarterlife@lemmy.sdf.org
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      4 months ago

      If you need RPM Firefox, my recommendation is that you install it with Distrobox. This also solves the security issue that we remove upstream Firefox over - update frequency.

      You don’t want Firefox to only update when your operating system image does. As far as I’m concerned the bug preventing Firefox from being re-added is a feature.

      • Pantherina@feddit.de
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        4 months ago

        No that is definetly a bug, as it spits out strange error messages.

        I dont think Firefox running through Podman in rootless mode can create user namespaces? But not sure, will check that.

        I have auto updates enabled and I reboot daily. This is not an issue especially on ublue where they are on by default.

        • quarterlife@lemmy.sdf.org
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          4 months ago

          We build twice a week, that’s not frequent enough for a web browser.

          Ultimately it’s saving you from yourself, if this bug gets fixed and there’s a way I can unfix it, I will do so.

          • Pantherina@feddit.de
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            4 months ago

            Oh okay, didnt know Bazzite builds slower than the other images.

            Instead of blocking users, education is the way better option. Flatpak Firefox does not have user namespace sandbox support, which is a pretty big deal.