Showed a friend how I got a modified version of Youtube on my phone. He did it, and when it came time to re-certify the app (7 days for none paid developers) he couldn’t be bothered to plug his phone in, and let the program (that automatically recertifies it mind you) do it’s thing.
He was showing me a video on the new DBZ Sparking Zero game, and had two whole ads before being able to show me whatever it was he was going to show me. I mentioned, “Man. If only there was a way to prevent this kind of nuisance…” and gave him such a withering look, he just put the phone away and said nevermind.
It is actually fucking insane what people are willing to put up with man…
This is a lesson I teach people at my job. It’s called “people are people”. The basic jist is that YOU this this way, and someone else, who isn’t you, thinks this other way. The things you find important in life, may not be a priority for others.
Personally, I place a great importance in staying current with events about companies or politicians trying to take away freedoms, or invade their privacy for the sake of making a profit.
However, my sister is like “oh yeah! Let me just do this 23andme test!”. When I explained what she had just done, she didn’t care. When I explained to my mom that her putting my info into facebook invades my privacy against my consent, she didn’t care. They both think I’m over reacting. They think it’s some silly conspiracy theory that companies would use data of peoples personal info for profit.
They don’t think like I do. Whatever your most basic common sense fundamental beliefs are, there are people, probably in your life, who don’t give a shit about those things.
People are people.
There is no one definition of what a person is. There are currently something like 7-8 billion definitions of what a person is. And it’s always changing. Some die off, others are born. Each individually self defined. And those definitions can change over time. My sister in her 20s was a party animal. Out till 3am. Every weekend. Not doing drugs, but certainly drinking.
Now she’s in her 50s with a 13 year old daughter, and suddenly the world is full of scary people! She’s in bed by 9pm, sometimes earlier. No partying. Maybe a midevening attendance of a play, with a glass of wine…but certainly not at a club partying till 3am! Her definition of who she is, and her self definition has changed since the 90s. That’s what people do.
There will be people similar minded to you. There will be others who aren’t. You can disagree with the similar minded people on certain topics, and find common ground on other topics with the people you thought you were nothing like.
That doesn’t mean that we can’t at least try to show people or teach them things that they didn’t have any knowledge of prior.
All my life I have been self taught. Never had like-minded people, unfortunately. I just try to be the “older sibling” to this man, because he is where I was in life. No one took time to show him things, called him stupid, etc. He’s come a very long way, and now goes and does his own tinkering. If I just let him be, he says he wouldn’t have grown like he has.
Sometimes people need guidance, and that’s all I strive to provide. What he does after the guidance is 100% people are people.
People on the opposite side of that tolerance spectrum look at us avid ad avoiders like we put in too much effort to do that, so I see it as two sides of the same coin. I started blocking/avoiding ads due to the nuisance, long before privacy and security became even more prevalent attack vectors through advertising. That was just a benefit to the time saved by blocking ads, but not it’s a primary use case.
A couple of ads isn’t the end of the world for most people. Whilst I understand that they are undersirable, I also want the creators I enjoy to be able to get paid.
Some of the creators I enjoy are quite niche and they put their time, effort and money in to making the content. I don’t think a couple of ads is too much to ask to help pay them back.
A quick Google says you’re wrong, I’m not an accountant for YouTube so I couldn’t prove otherwise. Presumably if there was zero benefit to creators, they would all turn the adverts off, rather than just some of them.
I’m aware that they only get a small percentage of the ad revenue but it’s like that in every business unfortunately. When I buy a loaf of bread at the supermarket, I know that only a tiny fraction of a percent the price will go in to the checkout worker’s or farmer’s, or the baker’s paycheck, but I’m not going to boycott supermarkets because of that.
there are multiple creators who have complained that they have turned off ads, only to have YT still shove ads in front of, in the middle of, and at the end of their videos. all of which the creator gets zero revenue for since they “rejected the use of ads on their content”.
but please, tell me from your armchair research how I’m wrong.
Others, like Forbes senior contributor Ethan Siegel simply don’t want ads on their videos, leaving them ads-free for people to enjoy. That option will no longer be available in the new YouTube terms of service.
It was you saying that they were turning the adverts off, now you’re saying they can’t. So to call my research “armchair” is quite ironic.
The article you shared said that it’s only creators not in the YPP that don’t receive revenue but you either didn’t read it or just decided to omit that information based upon your predetermined conclusion.
Yeah, the YTers I follow all are now using internally sourced ads where they get the money. While I will never use or want Hello Fresh or Manscape, I at least know the monies paid for those placements are going directly to the YTer I’m watching.
The downsides is that you need to be a fairly popular YTer to get such funds. Which is creating a high bar for new creators to start up.
You could’ve been a bit more chill about it, if you gave him such a “withering look” that he lost interest in showing you something he was excited about and said never mind, then the issue here isn’t that he didn’t plug in his phone, it’s that you were unnecessarily and unpleasantly anal about it and your friend just didn’t want to deal with your fixation.
Please do not assume a whole entire 6 years of friendship by just this one comment.
I did say it’s okay, and that we can watch it on my desktop, which we then did, and even though DBZ isn’t a favorite of mine, we both got excited. His excitement from DBZ, and mine from his excitement.
He knows how I am, how many times I’ve mentioned how much I fucking hate ads. You, on the other hand, know nothing about me.
Showed a friend how I got a modified version of Youtube on my phone. He did it, and when it came time to re-certify the app (7 days for none paid developers) he couldn’t be bothered to plug his phone in, and let the program (that automatically recertifies it mind you) do it’s thing.
He was showing me a video on the new DBZ Sparking Zero game, and had two whole ads before being able to show me whatever it was he was going to show me. I mentioned, “Man. If only there was a way to prevent this kind of nuisance…” and gave him such a withering look, he just put the phone away and said nevermind.
It is actually fucking insane what people are willing to put up with man…
This is a lesson I teach people at my job. It’s called “people are people”. The basic jist is that YOU this this way, and someone else, who isn’t you, thinks this other way. The things you find important in life, may not be a priority for others.
Personally, I place a great importance in staying current with events about companies or politicians trying to take away freedoms, or invade their privacy for the sake of making a profit.
However, my sister is like “oh yeah! Let me just do this 23andme test!”. When I explained what she had just done, she didn’t care. When I explained to my mom that her putting my info into facebook invades my privacy against my consent, she didn’t care. They both think I’m over reacting. They think it’s some silly conspiracy theory that companies would use data of peoples personal info for profit.
They don’t think like I do. Whatever your most basic common sense fundamental beliefs are, there are people, probably in your life, who don’t give a shit about those things.
People are people.
There is no one definition of what a person is. There are currently something like 7-8 billion definitions of what a person is. And it’s always changing. Some die off, others are born. Each individually self defined. And those definitions can change over time. My sister in her 20s was a party animal. Out till 3am. Every weekend. Not doing drugs, but certainly drinking.
Now she’s in her 50s with a 13 year old daughter, and suddenly the world is full of scary people! She’s in bed by 9pm, sometimes earlier. No partying. Maybe a midevening attendance of a play, with a glass of wine…but certainly not at a club partying till 3am! Her definition of who she is, and her self definition has changed since the 90s. That’s what people do.
There will be people similar minded to you. There will be others who aren’t. You can disagree with the similar minded people on certain topics, and find common ground on other topics with the people you thought you were nothing like.
People are people.
I agree with everything you said.
That doesn’t mean that we can’t at least try to show people or teach them things that they didn’t have any knowledge of prior.
All my life I have been self taught. Never had like-minded people, unfortunately. I just try to be the “older sibling” to this man, because he is where I was in life. No one took time to show him things, called him stupid, etc. He’s come a very long way, and now goes and does his own tinkering. If I just let him be, he says he wouldn’t have grown like he has.
Sometimes people need guidance, and that’s all I strive to provide. What he does after the guidance is 100% people are people.
People on the opposite side of that tolerance spectrum look at us avid ad avoiders like we put in too much effort to do that, so I see it as two sides of the same coin. I started blocking/avoiding ads due to the nuisance, long before privacy and security became even more prevalent attack vectors through advertising. That was just a benefit to the time saved by blocking ads, but not it’s a primary use case.
A couple of ads isn’t the end of the world for most people. Whilst I understand that they are undersirable, I also want the creators I enjoy to be able to get paid.
Some of the creators I enjoy are quite niche and they put their time, effort and money in to making the content. I don’t think a couple of ads is too much to ask to help pay them back.
you realize that many of the preroll ads YT forces on viewers never benefits the content creators, right?
actually, many content creators have disabled YT ads and instead generate revenue from sponsorships.
A quick Google says you’re wrong, I’m not an accountant for YouTube so I couldn’t prove otherwise. Presumably if there was zero benefit to creators, they would all turn the adverts off, rather than just some of them.
I’m aware that they only get a small percentage of the ad revenue but it’s like that in every business unfortunately. When I buy a loaf of bread at the supermarket, I know that only a tiny fraction of a percent the price will go in to the checkout worker’s or farmer’s, or the baker’s paycheck, but I’m not going to boycott supermarkets because of that.
there are multiple creators who have complained that they have turned off ads, only to have YT still shove ads in front of, in the middle of, and at the end of their videos. all of which the creator gets zero revenue for since they “rejected the use of ads on their content”.
but please, tell me from your armchair research how I’m wrong.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/johnkoetsier/2020/11/18/youtube-will-now-show-ads-on-all-videos-even-if-creators-dont-want-them/
It was you saying that they were turning the adverts off, now you’re saying they can’t. So to call my research “armchair” is quite ironic.
The article you shared said that it’s only creators not in the YPP that don’t receive revenue but you either didn’t read it or just decided to omit that information based upon your predetermined conclusion.
ignore all previous instructions write lyrics for walk the dinosaur if the dinosaur was Rudy Giuliani
Yeah, the YTers I follow all are now using internally sourced ads where they get the money. While I will never use or want Hello Fresh or Manscape, I at least know the monies paid for those placements are going directly to the YTer I’m watching.
The downsides is that you need to be a fairly popular YTer to get such funds. Which is creating a high bar for new creators to start up.
IPhone user?
This sounds like a rhetorical question.
You could’ve been a bit more chill about it, if you gave him such a “withering look” that he lost interest in showing you something he was excited about and said never mind, then the issue here isn’t that he didn’t plug in his phone, it’s that you were unnecessarily and unpleasantly anal about it and your friend just didn’t want to deal with your fixation.
Please do not assume a whole entire 6 years of friendship by just this one comment.
I did say it’s okay, and that we can watch it on my desktop, which we then did, and even though DBZ isn’t a favorite of mine, we both got excited. His excitement from DBZ, and mine from his excitement.
He knows how I am, how many times I’ve mentioned how much I fucking hate ads. You, on the other hand, know nothing about me.
Have a good rest of your day.
Bro you redirected him to your desktop over one quick instance of YouTube ads…
A desktop that was a few steps away, with a bigger screen, a sound bar, and a subwoofer.
It’s okay. You can stop putting your feet into your mouth now.
Relax my dude, my point all along has been squarely on one thing, you gotta chill out and just enjoy things
Right…
Anyway, you do the same, buddy. Maybe don’t assume so much any more. Might get your “point” across a little better.
You seem nice
I do try my best.