I have a Synology DS923+ as my NAS which currently runs Plex, Immich and a couple other things.

I also have a Intel NUC (8th gen) which has Proxmox on it which mainly does PiHole and HomePage. I would like to use the NUC for PiHole, Immich, Plex, HomePage and Home Assistant.

Is Proxmox the best system to use for these applications? Would it be easier to just install Debian and Docker and run everything through containers on one OS instead of splitting them all up into LXC or VMs?

I would also like the convenience of easily updating containers through a GUI. I am not afraid of SSH and CLI but it’s nice to go to a browser address and see everything in one place. Kind of like how DSM7 is set up on Synology.

  • bluGill@fedia.io
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    1 day ago

    Home Assistant insists that it must run on bare metal hardware and will not work well. This is a purely artificial limitation that home assistant puts on you. You can work around it with a lot of effort, or the limitations might not matter to you, but it is a limit to be aware of. I personally went to OpenHAB instead, but YMMV.

    • doeknius_gloek@discuss.tchncs.deEnglish
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      1 day ago

      Uhhh, I have always used Docker for Home Assistant with no issues? That being said, I’m no HA power user at all - so maybe you could elaborate about the limits you’ve encountered?

      • bluGill@fedia.io
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        1 day ago

        https://www.home-assistant.io/installation/ Home assistant container - the version for docker - doesn’t support add-ons. If you go through a lot of effort you can make it work, but you won’t get help. (easiest is to install some linux in the docker and then home assistant supervised on top of that)

        There is no reason HAOS couldn’t run just fine in a container (qemu not docker), but they intentionally detect that and break it (I tried, I probably could make it work but I don’t have that much time)

        • tko@tkohhh.socialEnglish
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          1 day ago

          To be fair, Addons are just other containers. If you’re using a Docker install for Home Assistant, I think the idea is you already have a handle on your docker host, and you’re capable of adding whatever other containers you might need.

          • bluGill@fedia.io
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            1 day ago

            Maybe, but the documentation says it can’t be done.

            note too that I wasn’t running docker but instead a vm.

            • tko@tkohhh.socialEnglish
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              23 hours ago

              I think this is just a terminology difference. The documentation says that “Add Ons” are not supported in Container and Core, but “Add Ons” means the easy button you press to install those services. All of those Add On services are just containers that HAOS manages for you. Every single one of them can be set up as a container manually and function the same as the official “Add Ons.”

              I don’t know for sure, but I wonder if the reason for this is that it’s not technically possible for a container to manage other external containers. Does anybody know about this?

              • bluGill@fedia.io
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                23 hours ago

                You can run docker in docker. I do that all the time (but via scripts so I know it does docker in docker, but I don’t know how they do that).

                But again, I wasn’t even trying to run HA in docker, I was running in a VM container and still the above is refused by default.

    • 👍Maximum Derek👍@discuss.tchncs.deEnglish
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      1 day ago

      Not true at all. If you want to run Home Assistant on top of Home Assistant OS then it needs to be on bare metal or a full VM because its an OS. Running on HAOS is easy mode, but not required.