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Cake day: June 28th, 2023

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  • Phone wouldn’t work for me, I’ve got a strict no phone around the TV rule for myself because I’m way too tempted to just use it instead of enjoying the thing I’m watching. Also wouldn’t really want to put an Xbox controller onto my wife or step mother.

    I wish there was some kind of application you could run that would abstract all the mouse and keyboard interactions into a remote control friendly interface.






  • That all comes up in the article. The core idea the author is getting at is the general ease of fabricated situations is coming in a new way that previously hasn’t been a couple clicks for the average user. Think less about political turmoil (propaganda has existed as long as there as been politics) and more about how your Karen aunt can add a worm to their Google review for spaghetti. Most people won’t learn Photoshop, most people can click a few buttons.

    I think it’s still important to consider the tomorrow we’re being thrust into even if we could do this on a smaller scale yesterday.






  • I highly recommend the Decoder podcast from The Verge. The host Nilay Patel interviews the Logitech CEO Hanneke Faber and this comes up. He comes at the question earnestly but can’t understand how she tries to justify this. It’s a pretty fun listen. Link: https://www.theverge.com/24206847/logitech-ceo-hanneke-faber-mouse-keyboard-gaming-decoder-podcast-interview

    The transcript is there too if you just want to read it. Here’s some of the relavent bits.

    What made the mouse a forever mouse?

    It was a little heavier, it had great software and services that you’d constantly update, and it was beautiful. So I don’t think we’re necessarily super far away from that.

    But, again, I just come back to the cost. You sell me the mouse once. Maybe I’ll pay 200 bucks for it.

    The business model obviously is the challenge there. So then software is even more important when you think about it. Can you come up with a service model? In our video conferencing business, that is now a very important part of the model, the services, and it’s critical for corporate customers.

    Let’s come to that in a second because that makes sense to me. You sell managed services to enterprises. You price support contracts for cameras and whatever. That’s an ongoing need businesses have. I’m still stuck on, “You’re going to sell me a mouse once and it’s going to have ongoing software updates forever.”

    Imagine it’s like your Rolex. You’re going to really love that.

    But Rolex has to employ software engineers to ship me over-the-air updates forever.

    But the artifact is like your Rolex, and then given that we know the technology that we attach to changes, it’s not going to be like your Rolex in that it doesn’t have to ever change. Our stuff will have to change, but does the hardware have to change? I’m not so sure. We’ll have to obviously fix it and figure out what that business model is. We’re not at the forever mouse today, but I’m intrigued by the thought.>

    I’m going to ask this very directly. Can you envision a subscription mouse?

    Possibly.

    And that would be the forever mouse?

    Yeah.

    So you pay a subscription for software updates to your mouse.

    Yeah, and you never have to worry about it again, which is not unlike our video conferencing services today.

    But it’s a mouse.

    But it’s a mouse, yeah.

    I think consumers might perceive those to be very different.

    [Laughs] Yes, but it’s gorgeous. Think about it like a diamond-encrusted mouse.







  • The dongle still works. They reached market saturation with people who just want a dongle. They can’t realistically be expected to produce these forever.

    Edit

    Classic Lemmy. Point out that these are not charities and companies can’t keep producing niche products that you aren’t buying but maybe potentially want to buy someday and get thrown down votes. Down votes without a response tell me you’re just butthurt about the truth.

    Sorry folks whether you like it or not it’s the truth. Companies like to sell things and if these were actually being bought enough to make a profit they wouldn’t be discontinued. Your TV probably has this feature built in now. Want another? Buy it second hand, the market is absolutely flooded with these second hand because they’re just collecting dust in cabinets. If Google kept making these they’d just end up as unsold stock in a landfill.

    Your existing chromecast dongle will continue to connect because Google needs chromecast the protocol to continue to work to compete with Apples Airplay. It’s the same reason the Chromecast Audio dongle continues to work 5 years after it’s end of life.

    If you want to make sure you have them forever buy up your local second hand stock but otherwise no one has given a convincing argument why these need more e-waste getting produced at the factory.