This seems like classic corporate backtracking when their customers spot a terrible, deliberate decision.

I didn’t think that’s the case here

However, would you rather that the feedback of users NOT change behavior? I’m not entirely sure what your end game is here, you WANT corporations to ignore and not take action on feedback?

How can they block this for everyone?

Seriously. We don’t need bot bullshit on Lemmy.

This is the start of the slide for Reddit is just going to be worse here because there are fewer controls to actually detect and do something about bots.

This… This is the shit tower.

It’s made up of fools who follow fools, and soon to be fools who follow AI ran by people with an agenda.

Gotcha so you actually stated your previous question in bad faith as you had no interest in the answer to begin with.

Recurring!

Give it time and the mega corps will do it for you.

PR nightmares will keep significant exploit fixes coming. Microsoft isn’t that stupid.

They have the concept of a antitrust breakup.

I didn’t really mention immich directly here.

This is a problem which is endemic to casual software development like many FOSS projects. It’s a reality of how free software tends to be built in general vs commercial software.

The issue here is that these are solvable problems, release compat isn’t a new problem. It’s just a problem that takes dedicated effort to solve for, just like any other feature.

This is something FOSS apps tend to lack simply due to the nature of how contributions tend to work for free software. Which is an unfortunate reality, but a reality none the less.

You would, but if there’s no reason for them to spend the money on it why?

This is what regulation is for, and it needs to have teeth.

People really underestimate the value of stability and predictability.

There are some amazing FOSS projects out there ran by folks who don’t give a crap about stability or the art of user experience. It holds them back, and unfortunately helps drive a fragmented ecosystem where we get 2,3,5 major projects all trying to do the same thing.

Just because you don’t want it doesn’t mean others don’t.

And just because you don’t know much about the actual tech product itself doesn’t mean that it’s as narrow as you consider it to be.

There is a ton of vapid hype that everyone including myself is getting sick and tired of. I’m more than happy to recognize that. However, there are still real world problems and continued advancements being made daily.

It’s not all about LLMs either, there are many other types of science being done to develop improve and augment various other flavors of artificial intelligence. This has been a pretty constant trend for at least the last 10 years, we’ve just had a recent explosion in language capabilities with the introduction of generative AI. Thus fueling the hype.

That’s a really weird stance that I keep seeing on here which is to be proud of being ignorant. Being proud of hating something without actually understanding what it is. Being proud of not knowing how something works so that you can be more contrare.

Have you ever used something they made? Did it meet your standard of being “good work”?

I mean you’re ignorance of the products that they build or work on doesn’t precipitate their badness. Let’s start with the entire developer ecosystem that they have their hands deep in, it’s a pretty damn good ecosystem.

You probably need to check your bias because it’s leaking, negatively affecting your decision making.

Any company of this size is going to have shit products great products and literally thousands and tens of thousands of projects in between. You seem to be familiar with one product line, of hundreds or even thousands.

Nfts were a scam from the start something that has no actual purpose utility or value being given value through hype.

Generative AI is very different. In my honest opinion you have to have your head in the sand if you don’t believe that AI is only going to incrementally improve and expand in capabilities. Just like it has year over year for the last 5 to 10 years. And just like for the last decade it continues to solve more and more real-world problems in increasingly effective manners.

It isn’t just constrained to llms either.

Because the majority of my traffic and services are internal with internal DNS? And I want valid HTTPS certs for them, without exposing my IP in the DNS for those A records.

If I don’t care about leaking my IP in my a records then this is pretty easy. However I don’t want to do this for various reasons. One of those being that I engage in security related activities and have no desire to put myself at risk by leaking.

Even services that I exposed to the internet I still don’t want to have my local network traffic go to the internet and back when there is no need for that. SSL termination at my own internal proxy solves that problem.

I now have this working by using the cloudflare DNS ACME challenge. Those services which I exposed to the internet cloudflare is providing https termination for, cloudflare is then communicating with my proxy which also provides https termination. My internal communication with those services is terminated at my proxy.

I stated in the OP that this is off :/

I stated in the OP that cloudflair HTTPS is off :/

I’m not using cloudflare for the certificate. I also can’t use the cloud for certificate anyways for internal services through a loopback.

Similarly you can have SSL termination at multiple layers. That’s works I have services that proxy through multiple SSL terminations. The issue that I’m having is that the ACME challenge seems to be having issues, these issues are documented and explained in various GitHub threads, however the set of solutions are seemingly different and convoluted for different environments.

This is why I’m asking this question here after having done a reasonable amount of research and trial and error.

I am doing SSL termination at the handoff which is the caddy proxy. My internal servers have their SSL terminated at caddy, my traffic does not go to the internet… It loops back from my router to my internal Network.

However DNS still needs to have subdomains in order to get those certificates, this cloudflair DNS. I do not want my IP to be associated with the subdomains, thus exposing it, therefore cloudflair proxy.

You’re seeing the errors because the proxy backend is being told to speak HTTPS with Caddy, and it doesn’t work like that.

You can have SSL termination at multiple points. Cloudflare can do SSL termination and Cloudflair can also connect to your proxy which also has SSL termination. This is allowed, this works, I have services that do this already. You can have SSL termination at every hop if you want, with different certificates.

That said, I have cloudflair SSL off, as stated in the OP. Cloudflare is not providing a cert, nor is it trying to communicate with my proxy via HTTPS.

Contrary to your statement about this not working that way, cloudflair has no issues proxying to my proxy where I already have valid certs. Or even self signed ones, or even no certs. The only thing that doesn’t work is the ACME challenge…

Edit: I have now solved this by using Cloudflair DNS ACME challenge. Cloudflair SSL turned back on. Everything works as expected now, I can have external clients terminate SSL at cloudflair, cloudflair communicate with my proxy through HTTPS, and have internal clients terminate SSL at caddy.