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PaaP! Platform-as-a-platform!


Each of them.


You could use XMPP but they don’t have any nice clients
[citation needed]
There’s at least three good clients for Desktop (multiplatform) and two for Android.
Plus, XMPP is the best thing to run service-wise. Relatively cheap, runs on a potato, not a nu-protocol that requires a server cluster and friggin’ npm.


It’s a crapload more work to support XMPP/Matrix/whatever messaging on any platform than just using a robust, reliable, resilient, widely supported good old SMTP
For the minimal of sending out a message to their accounts, they are just as easy as each other. Heck, there are simple packages to send XMPP messages from the CLI.


Any particular reason why you can’t do something like host a Send instance instead? Better to treat “filesystem behind the network” and “files to share” as two different things: one is imanent, the other is punctual and sporadic.


Only mostly when I want to. Which tends to be on Mondays and Saturdays.
I’m running Sid on servers, so automatic updates are actually a risk. Used to be Debian Stable, but maaan the docker and podman improvements… make me drool.


Google flags F-Droid updates…
Why would people have Google security going on if they have set up F-Droid as their appstore? Doesn’t that defeat the entire purpose?
There’s a wide gap of stuff one can do between IRC and “chat with voice channels”. For example, having a better protocol with better formatting options, a moderation API, better account management, other forms of multimedia (page embeds, images).


This week I was setting up an IRC server for a group of friends, but might switch it to XMPP. I also have a v good friend who is hosting a XMPP server that sees very little use and has some good lots of legacy stuff going on, I’ll try to ping them to see if it’s worth to spin something completely new.


This is so nice to hear.


What for?
XMPP is quite robust and open, and while it’s not in the level of simplicity of, say, IRC, it still beats pretty much everything else on connectivity and efficiency, and can be run on a potato. Storage is only slighly a concern.
OTOH nu-protocols like Mastodon stuff or Matrix stuff, while they are nice to have, are notoriously badly designed because kiddies these days can’t bother to learn C. This results in highly energy-, memory- and storage-consuming systems. In the amount of RAM I need to kick up a Matrix server (assuming it even runs) I can run ~18 XMPP services and about ~240 ircd services.


Terrified Blanco


Well yeah, it means the system can’t keep torrentin’ stuff!


i am un-admining
Pretty much this. I just manually handle stuff when needed. I already work at IT so this feels quite liberating, the last thing I want is to annoy myself more, and the stuff I manage is not Critical™.


what is the endgame of this cat and mouse game?
Same as usual: the mouse loses unless it assembles and unionizes with other mouses and they bring in a guillotine.


That’s quite senseful yes. In the cases where I want to host somewhere that already has a Postgres service going, I just up and use that.


…How come so few people are using SQLite?


You intendeth to mean Beowulf? I would mayhaps have seen one ere the break of my college time. Wouldst you tell me more about it?


The only part that is wrong TMK is the “indivisible” one; and perhaps the last item because I recall that PulseAudio and Wayland were pushed this way worse than systemd was.
Not really conductive as long as most funds are siphoned by the C-suite ranks. Get rid of the C-fat first, maybe even turn Mozilla into a co-op, then have the People fund it.