• athairmor@lemmy.world
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    10 days ago

    This is going to be like shaving razors, isn’t it? How soon before quad-fold phones?

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    10 days ago

    Whose brilliant idea was it to demo this with a wallpaper that looks like a shitty diagonal screen fold?

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    10 days ago

    Considering everyone I know with a folding phone has had a fault with the folding part of it - I don’t think its the best idea from a durability standpoint to add yet another folding part.

    If one screen or fold point breaks, you’re now left with two unusable (but perfectly functioning) screens. Seems like an expensive gimmick to me.

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      10 days ago

      Mine grew a visible line at the foldy bit that you can see at an angle.

      I like the phone though, just know what you’re getting into.

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      10 days ago

      From the moment I saw it, I knew what the problem would be, and surprise! That’s the problem.

      BTW, I’m a musician, not an engineer. If I saw that obvious issue, what is their fucking problem?

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        10 days ago

        It’s not a problem, it’s a business opportunity. The more they break, the more they can sell you a 2000 dollars phone.

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        10 days ago

        If I saw that obvious issue, what is their fucking problem?

        The engineer’s problem is that the marketing and sales department started running all of the companies two decades ago. So, they’re constantly overruled.

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          9 days ago

          Valid, also the accountanting departments, which is the kiss of death for any company. Never let the accountants run anything, just keep them in their hole, counting the money.

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      10 days ago

      Because they’re fragile. You don’t want your screen to die on the first drop.

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        10 days ago

        and you don’t want it full of scratches, since cover glasses and protection cases will probably be quite complicated for these monstrosities?

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    9 days ago

    After reading through the comments and seeing the majority of people are commenting negatively but have never had a folding phone. i feel like i should chime in.

    I have owns a fold 3 a fold 6 and now a fold 7, my wife has a fold 5 and we have never had one fail on us. No broken screens, no scratches or bugs. There are also several people where i work who have had at least 2 generations of these phones and also have never had issues.

    I know these things break, but so does any phone. Phones breaking tend to be a user problem and not a hardware one. If you dont handle with care then you are the problem.

    In fact i have only ever broken 1 phone in my 20+ years of using them and it was entirely my fault. I put it on a book on a table, then without thinking i lifted the book and it slid off and landed in a bucket of water. Pixel 1 not waterproof. My bad.

    I guess i just think people are quick to judge these phones without ever having used one and i think thats so short sighted.

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      9 days ago

      I had a fold three for almost 4 years and it was fantastic. And then upgraded to the fold six and had it for about a month open the screen on it and literally didn’t even close it and break it and drop it literally just picked it up opened it and it cracked in half I was so pissed. Going through the warranty process they could not get me a six or a seven so they sent me a check which unfortunately would raise my bill by over $100 because I no longer had a phone to trade in at this point so I finally just downgraded to a Samsung 24 plus and in about 6 months I’m going to trade this one back in to get the fold seven because I definitely don’t want to pay over $2,000 just out of pocket.

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        1 day ago

        Good to know. Almost bought a Fold 6 but decided to fork over the dough for a Fold 7 instead (mainly cause I love how it’s as thin and light as any other phone when folded).

        Thanks for making me feel a lot better about dropping $2K on this fucking thing. Best phone I’ve ever owned but I paid out the ass for the privilege.

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        9 days ago

        Folding phones are so expensive that I consider it mandatory to have insurance. Samsung Care Plus, in Samsung’s case. I switched to a pixel pro fold so I could use Graphene and got whatever googles insurance plan is.

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          9 days ago

          You should only take insurance on things you can’t afford to replace (like your house, your car). If you can’t replace your phone from savings, you shouldn’t buy a high-end phone.

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            9 days ago

            Just because you can replace your phone from savings doesn’t mean it’s desirable to do so. The monthly payments for these plans are low, and they have saved me money with two full replacements over a period of about 5 years.

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              7 days ago

              Typically an insurance doesn’t save you money. If it did the insurer would go bankrupt.

              Unless you know you will claim much more than a typical insuree, because you break a lot of stuff.

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      9 days ago

      As another data point, I’m writing this from my fold 6 which is about one year old, with no scratches nor marks of any kind.

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      9 days ago

      Good to know, my few experiences with folds (which I was quite fond of) where in the previous era of smartphones (so mechanical keyboard and no touch-screens) and the bending part evidenced always as a weak point in terms of wearing, in one occasion the failure point cause of the phone change. So, is there no evident wearing symptoms in the bending areas of these folding smartphones if treated with love?

      • Mr_Dr_Oink@lemmy.world
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        9 days ago

        I had my fold 3 for 4 years and my wife used it to get a feel for them after me and she very quickly got a 5. I had some of the paint chip off in places after a few years and one time that i got scared by something and jumped a bit and threw it out of my hand to the ground with the inner screen open (only cosmetic damage to the body) it survived a lot. A hell of a lot of engineering went into the hinge so its pretty much the strongest part of the phone. Jerryrigeverything on youtube has tried to snap these phones and they are very strong and so far have not broken in one of his tests.

        Any phone can break, but i say if you care for your phone it should last. The 3 onwards have been really solid phones and the fears around them, to me, seem made up.

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        1 day ago

        Fold 7 owner here and I can confirm that the crease is invisible during normal use. You have to purposely angle your phone in unnatural directions under a light to see it. My last phone was a Fold 4 and it was definitely visible then. Not anymore.

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        8 days ago

        Yes. There’s a crease in the middle of the screen.

        But its invisible to the user when looking at the screen.

        It doesnt impact using the screen.

        Its barely there on the latest fold 7. Definitely more prominent as you go back through the versions. Regardless i have owned 3 generations of the phone and used my wife’s one so 4 generations total and the crease doesn’t matter. Hasnt mattered on any of them.

        What do you think the problem is with there being a crease? What practical issue does it raise? Or is it purely an aesthetic issue? Becaus3 if it is, like i said, you cant see it when you are the one using it.

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      8 days ago

      I have owned 3 foldable phones and any of them failed. 2025 is a year of Samsung. Fold7 and this TriFold. Amazing technology.

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    9 days ago

    This would be the coolest shit ever if these phones didn’t have a reputation for breaking so easily. I had the Z Fold 4 and after I left it partially folded for about 30 mins in my car while I was driving, something went wrong with the hinge and it could no longer open fully flat. Unacceptable for a device at that price range.

    I want us to go back when it comes to smartphones, not forward. Bring back the holy trinity of removable battery, headphone jack, and SD card slot.

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    10 days ago

    This is a very cool piece of technology. The comments here naysaying about it seem odd to me. If it’s not for you that’s fine, but many millions of foldables have been bought over the past few years, and they continue to sell very well today

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      10 days ago

      And they will continue to have big ass creases visible in the folding part

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        Which foldable do you own? There is no visible crease on my Fold 7 during normal use. The only way I can see it is by placing the phone directly under a light and angling it in an unnatural direction.

        That said, my old Fold 4 had an obvious crease. But it’s no longer an issue with modern foldables.

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        10 days ago

        Only in real life, not in any of the marketing materials. So you only know how it really works after purchase.

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          10 days ago

          Almost no one buys a super expensive phone that has a totally new form factor without trying it out in real life before buying it

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      10 days ago

      it is a very cool technical achievement, but the user experience leaves a lot to be desired with them. most people don’t think about comparing. which is the only way i can imagine samsung getting as big as they have.

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        10 days ago

        Statement with no substance. What do you desire that’s not there?

        Aside from the screen being softer and easier to scratch, name a practical difference between this and another 10" Android tablet…

        If a 10" tablet meets your desires, and your desire to fold it and put it in your pocket, what’s left?

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          well that is part of the user experience. the main thing that annoys me though is that the ui tends to go one of two ways for these devices; either it’s super-custom to the point that all application developers have to do extra work to be usable on it, or there’s too little customisation, which again means apps are not properly usable without extra work. i’ve not seen a folding device that “just works” yet.

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            10 days ago

            A lot of the issue with foldable is the non-standard aspect ratio. This gets to a standard tablet aspect ratio, so should run out of the box with most apps without additional modification.

            Also DEX support on-device means it can run fully windowed applications and use mouse and keyboard natively, which is a big boost in functionality for productivity applications.

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              10 days ago

              personally my experience with anything samsung is that it’s locked down to hell so i don’t know how useful dex actually is. the idea is neat though, wish someone else did it.

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                DEX is actually pretty good when used with a keyboard and external monitor. I also dont love thr Samsung walled garden, but I end up buying their products because I use my phones for several years at a time before replacing them so top end hardware specs are a priority and especially cameras.

                I would go Sony but the data band support in the US is incomplete, and I can’t get caught out by poor cell service while traveling.

                I am considering going Pixel next but Graphene hasn’t been announced for Pixel 10 yet so I’m a bit on the fence, I guess I could buy an older model and give it a try wifi only for a bit to see how I like it.

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                  i’ve flipped between sony and lg for my past three phones (which is a period of 14 years at this point), and been forced to use samsung stuff for work. the main difference i’ve found is that not only is samsung hard to switch from due to their walled garden stuff, they’re hard to switch to.

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    10 days ago

    Impressive from an engineering standpoint and it’s only going to get more refined. Give it 5-10 years and maybe they will be durable enough for regular use.