about two years
How convenient.
It’s exactly the time, where they are legally required to fix that in the EU
I know, that’s why it always catches my eye when there’s “2 years” in there somewhere.
Warranties are now 3 years in the EU.Edit: nope, just some countries.
Pathetically weak flex cable and connector. Obvious problem and design weakness that’s persisted for years.
It would be a relief if that was the problem. Even if Apple won’t issue a recall, third-party cables can be made and sold for a reasonable price by places like iFixIt.
If the display itself is defective, then this is going to be real bad for a lot of people unless Apple bites the bullet.
Look at the 2016 MacBook Pro.
They had a problem with the display cable and it can’t be easily replaced since it’s soldered to the display.
You basically just need to get an entirely new display even though it’s just the cable.
Additionally, some shops will resolder the cable, but it’s not a long term solution.
Even replacing the display by Apple is not a long term solution because they replace it with another display that has a cable that’s slightly too short and will eventually break again.
So the only real solution is to buy a new computer.
What does this have to do with “Apple Silicon”? Unless it’s not screen deterioration, but something with graphic output.
Might just be to indicate when it started happening. They could have written “M1” and still cause the same confusion, and I believed that’s what the model is called.
“According to an investigation by one of the affected users, the Apple iMac screen uses a flex cable that must sustain a voltage of around 50 volts when the screen is set to high or maximum brightness. This causes the connector to burn out over time, it was theorized, resulting in short circuits that cause the black lines to appear on the screen”
Oh. Makes sense it’s a cable. This way they can profit on spare cables and keep the reputation of reliable hardware for their fanbase.
Not that kind of cable
This flex cable is bonded to the LCD and requires a replacement of the whole display assembly
2011 AMD Graphics MacBook Pro all over again
Yes, Apple! :-) Obviously Apple doesn’t have the win margins to put proper parts in their hardware…
Just yesterday I realized my Thinkpad Edge 330 is running w/o any trouble for 11 years now, cost me little above 300€, brand new back then. :-)
Apple builds obsolescence into their products on purpose.
If you’d bought a PC, a faulty screen would be easily replaceable. I had to replace my laptop screen myself several years ago, and with a $60 part and ten minutes on youtube, it was an easy repair.
Not really anymore. They make them expensive to repair, but they also don’t want you to switch to another brand, because for them a user in the ecosystem purchasing apps and subscriptions is worth way more than a frustrated user purchasing a one time display replacement. Their whole strategy now (for a few years really) is to make devices that last at minimum 5 years, because it makes the user happy that their 5yo phone still works, and that means they are likely to get another iPhone, and because as long as the user is in the ecosystem, they are making money by taking their cut of everything that happens on the device
So we rely on expensive things hard to fix with controllable lifespan.
Huuuuuh
That will be 450$ and you’ll have to send your device in for 3 weeks. -Apple Genius
Oddly enough, the reason why I did the repair myself was that the shop quoted me $400, haha. It’s nice to live in a world where you can fix your own stuff, something that Apple also does their best to prevent.
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Ehh…iOS is arguably the most secure mobile operating system (excluding something like GrapheneOS) currently on the market.
I don’t give a shit what brand you use, because I don’t have brand loyalty, but I can see valid reasons for why someone might want to use Apple Macbooks. Shitting on the consumer here does no good. All consumers deserve the same amount of consumer protection, regardless of which tech overlord they happen to purchase their hardware from.
I can see valid reasons for why someone might want to use Apple Macbooks
I use one because I write apps for iOS and you can only do that on a Macbook. It doesn’t make me a fanboi.
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By that rationale, we should be blaming those who picked a certain brand of hamburger meat for getting salmonella poisoning? I would think we’d want to push responsibility on the corporation and governmental oversight for change in food safety standards than mock those who got sick.
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I mean, it’s not really a false dichotomy though? Your statements suggest that we assign fault/root cause to the consumer. I’m suggesting we assign root cause to the manufacturer/lack of regulation. If at the end of the day, it’s the consumer’s fault they chose a product without conducting a comprehensive quality review of all components within the product they purchase, then the action of pushing government regulation contradicts that. Funding regulation doesn’t do anything to fix consumer behavior; i.e. root cause. But maybe I misinterpreted your statements.
As for your first statement, there are many problems with this reasoning. How can we reasonably expect consumers to perform comprehensive research studies on everything they purchase? If it turned out the specific manufacturer of Grade B wool that’s used for a certain sweater from a certain clothing brand is known for causing latent forms of cancer if worn for 2 years, that’s really on the consumer? C’mon now.
Besides, in this specific case, it turned out to be a catastrophic latent failure. It wasn’t even possible for an informed consumer to have predicted this sort of catastrophic failure.
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Most durable modern Apple’s hardwares:
I think their Vision Pro will be the product with least reported defects. However, that’s because its only job is to hold down paper on a desk.
Hmm. I’m still using a 2014 iMac, as its 27" 5k screen still very good for coding (with added memory). Sometimes develops a bunch of thin vertical lines, which come and go maybe dependent on temperature, but hasn’t changed for for ten years and i can live with those. Just wish they’d continue providing security updates for it.
27" 2015 iMac here. No problems whatsoever. I’m going to use this thing until it dies.
Edit: Gotta love the downvotes for literally just owning a Mac. Good luck breaking into the industry as a video editor without one, guys.
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It’s called an industry standard. You have heard of those before, I presume.
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No, I don’t care to hold your hand and explain to you the whole idea of an industry preferring you have a specific piece of technology over others and how finding out you have that piece of technology helps you get work. You’ll have to figure that one out for yourself.
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Let me introduce you to a little thing called media production workflow, where there are over 500 different file formats in active use, and getting it right forms the basis of most links in a chain hundreds of links long.
You start sending me botched files with the wrong codecs and see if I don’t find another subcontractor immediately.
Please spec out a PC with similar hardware to a Mac and half the cost.
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No case, no board, no power supply, no OS. You don’t even give a machine you compare to.
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It matters if you want to compare prices between complete functioning machines with comparable performance.
I’m pretty sure the standard is building your own can be slightly cheaper, depends which peripherals you already own since those aren’t usually part of a build every time.
But anyways, the advantage is that the built device will last longer and is made of replaceable parts that are cheap and easy to find. Easy to upgrade.
Please provide an Apple model and a comparable PC with prices.
Just bought myself a late 2011 17" MacBook Pro, it was listed as untested but I took the gamble… Yeah, its logic board turned out to be dead.
I bought far older ThinkPads for less money that worked perfectly.
I would be extremely skeptical of buying something listed as untested. How hard is it to test if a Mac works you just turn it on if it doesn’t turn on it’s broken. It takes like 30 seconds.
However if you turn it on and it’s broken but you don’t want to sell it for parts you can always just sell it as “untested”.
I guess not everyone has Magsafe 1 adapters lying around…
Imo untested always means dead. Especially when it is something easy to test - like a laptop
Yes, probably should have seen that coming to be fair. Especially since the A1297s are so prone to failure.
It’s just that confirmed working ones are still so goddamn expensive and I kinda wanted to have one but not enough to drop 200€ on it
Rule of thumb when buying electronics (or anything for that matter) is buy it cheap, buy it twice.
Nervously looks at the 10€/TB refurbished drives that just arrived
