• dan@upvote.au
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    Ecosia still uses American services though - they use Google, Bing, Yahoo and Wikipedia for search results.

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      14 hours ago

      95+% of all websites you visit are hosted on AWS or use Cloudflare.
      But that’s their decision, not yours.

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        Do you have a source for that? I think it’s nowhere near 95% of sites given there’s several major providers that aren’t AWS or Cloudflare (eg Hetzner, Google Cloud, DigitalOcean, Wordpress.com, and a bunch more)

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        I hope that goes well for them. It’s hard and extremely expensive, which is why there’s so few good search engines and half of them just use Bing’s API.

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      Yeah but don’t let perfect be the enemy of good. Among other things, they just recently announced that they’re starting to build an alternative index with Qwant.

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        You’re right but it’s still important to point out in this case since an American index would be subject to any American censorship law. It’s better to use Ecosia than Google for sure but we still gotta be aware of the type of bias we’re working with.

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        I’m using Qwant, used Ecosia before. Really OK for most stuff. I still revert to googling occasionally - mainly for local businesses on maps and sometimes shopping results. But I agree, don’t let perfect be the enemy of good, well said.

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        Definitely true. I’ll have to try it out. Is Ecosia better than DuckDuckGo or Kagi?

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        I’ve never heard of Ecosia, but I don’t understand your logic on this.

        Problem: Google bad!

        Solution: Don’t use google, use Ecosia instead.

        Error: Ecosia also uses google.

        How is this a good move? If anything it’s just a lateral move with the same problem.

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          Eventually they’ll stop using G and MAYBE they have better impact in the climate. Why be a fucking prick about it?

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          Same logic for using Brave or some other chromium browser instead of Chrome proper. It is better than using Chrome proper, even if it has cons.

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        Everyone whines because it’s built on bing but it’s fine and respects privacy better than most