Lemmy support would be much more fitting for Mozilla. They could add plugin or lemmy integration to their browser that could show discussions from subscribed communities matching the current url.
Effectively acting as a “comment section” but for any page. One would only need lemmy account to comment on youtube videos, news articles, blogs etc.
I didn’t want to rain on your parade, but:
- Firefox has hundreds of millions of users.
- Lemmy has less than half a million total users, and YTD MAU peaked at 52k.
Even putting aside technical details, I fail to see how “Lemmy integration in the browser” could be a good product strategy. A plugin/extension can also be developed by independent developers, which seems much more fitting for the size of the target demographic. Maybe I’m missing something.
Gab tried to pull the same thing with their Dissenter plugin. It was such a bad idea that Mozilla and Google banded together to remove the extensions from their stores for ToS violations.
Now imagine what a nightmare it would be to moderate the ability to comment on anything online with actual standards and decency.
Why was it a bad idea? Seems like a wonderful idea. Minus Gab.
Some kind of web of trust and inheriting ignored users based on it and weights - and it will work.
Sounds to me like an extension that by design tracks every Web page you visit.
Not necessarily and only those you comment.
That’s the point, to comment any webpage. It’s clear you visited it if you comment it.
Wow that might actually be amazing. A comment section for every page?
Rats…that company’s gonna miss out on all the fun.
Until they change CEOs again. I wonder what it’d be like to not have corporate parasites everywhere
what else does Mozilla have? matrix ? @ChatGPT@lemmings.world
It seems like there is no user named “Mozilla” on the lemmy.world instance. However, Mozilla does have a variety of other projects and services apart from Firefox and Thunderbird, such as:
- Mozilla Matrix: Mozilla operates an instance of the Matrix chat protocol. You can join and communicate on their Matrix channels.
- Mozilla VPN: A virtual private network service.
- Pocket: An application for managing a reading list of articles from the web.
- Common Voice: A project to help make voice recognition open and accessible to everyone.
- MDN Web Docs: Documentation for web technologies, including HTML, CSS, and JavaScript.
For more detailed information, you might want to visit the Mozilla website or their GitHub repository.
Good. Stop fucking around, focus on the browser. If they can make it provide value that Google can’t, they are succeeding. Google cant compete in privacy.
They are dropping it to focus on the important shit. Forcing bullshit genai stuff into their browser and working on adtech.
Got to love ignorant hot tapes based on article headings.
Forcing bullshit genai stuff into their browser
It’s an opt-in feature that just opens whatever AI service you picked, their website in a sidebar. You can even use your own local AI if you want to. Or not use it at all. But the AI isn’t actually in your browser any more than it is in your browser when you open their website in a tab.
If the translation thing counts as AI then that’s actually a really cool and more private use of it compared to querying a server. It can do the translation completely locally. Works pretty well too in my experience, though it does think for a moment when you tell it to translate.
Mozilla is only focusing on AI stuff.
Not true at all lol
And locally-run translation that utilises AI, as well as AI accessibility features for blind users isn’t nefarious. I mean, unless you dislike private translations and would rather send that data to Google, or hate blind people, but I’d hope you don’t.
People need to actually look into features before they have a stupid and completely reactionary “it says AI therefore evil” response. People who react that way are morons.
What is not true? Mozilla is lay off people with a move to AI: https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2024/02/mozilla-lays-off-60-people-wants-to-build-ai-into-firefox/. And invested millions into AI: https://digiworld.news/news/65190/mozilla-invests-30m-to-launch-mozillaai-and-redefine-the-next-era-of-ai. And are hiring a lot of AI engineers specifically: https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/careers/listings/
Literally none of that goes against what I’ve said.
Hiring people to work on local AI features and accessibility features does not mean it’s their only focus.
Completely silly take, and not the gotcha you think it is.
Ah, the hate-chorus when the people making the only browser keeping choice alive does… Literally anything.
After Mozilla introduced “Allow web sites to perform privacy-preserving ad measurement”, I was out for good now. I moved to forks like Floorp, LibreWolf or Waterfox.
But they are forks and they rely on Firefox development. Using them is fine, but with Mozilla funding and keeping up with browser development, they’d be poor
Its a bit like Brave taking Chromium, changing a few lines and saying “we built a browser”.
Yeah I read about that and it’s in no way a breach of privacy. So you overreacted, probably without even researching what you were reacting to
No I didn’t overrated. Users where opt-in in ad tracking by default after that Firefox update. Users were not notified about this. And “privacy-preserving ad measurement” is misleading on purpose, I don’t understand why you would fall for that too.
This all happened when Mozilla bought an ad company called Anonym. I’m fully done with Firefox now. I moved to a Firefox fork.
I’m not sure why all the down-votes… But I’m not lying… Look at: https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2024/02/mozilla-lays-off-60-people-wants-to-build-ai-into-firefox/. Or https://digiworld.news/news/65190/mozilla-invests-30m-to-launch-mozillaai-and-redefine-the-next-era-of-ai. There are literately millions invested into AI by Mozilla.
And they are mostly hiring AI engineers as well: https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/careers/listings/
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I’m assuming because they don’t have those AI engineers. I don’t agree with this or AI, but diversification isn’t something that can be ignored.
They need to focus on browser and bet on things that could succeed in the future. Winding down those bets that failed (like 3d visual worlds) is sensible.
Of the 60 they are laying off, how many of those work on Firefox?
I didn’t use it but the lack of an explanation is a frustrating response. Give feedback to the feedback??
They’re a small indie company and they need the server power to run the AI in Firefox
I don’t think Firefox has any AI that they need to run for you. The language thing (if that counts) is local thing.
It was a joke about how it seems they’re putting most, if not all, efforts into their AI
They’re still on Xitter, though.
I mean, maintaining an instance is a larger job than having a twitter account. I don’t think they’re all that comparable.
Yes, I think that’s natural. A large segment of their market is still there. Throwing away years of work when the accounts cost relatively little to maintain would be wasteful. I don’t see how their presence there is relevant to this discussion.
Sigh, so is Mozilla just like Google now? Can’t trust any services to stick around?
It’s a mastodon server. I don’t want them spending money on that anyways. They should be focusing on the browser, not social media infrastructure.
Exactly. They should be dropping anything that isn’t revenue positive or isn’t furthering the goals of browser. Rust is a great project because it’s being used directly in the browser. Mastodon isn’t, because it has no relationship to their browser efforts. I’m on the fence about the VPN, but if it’s revenue positive, it should probably stick around, and it sort of benefits the browser as well.
The VPN is really not much more than white labelled mullvad + the browser extension with separate VPN servers per container.
Right, and if it’s not profitable, it should be scrapped, but if it pays for itself, I see no harm in keeping it.
The majority of those are nothing burgers. They shut down their dedicated password app when they integrated its features into the browser, they shut down their encrypted file sharing tool when they realized it was being used for very nefarious uses, they shut down Positron and it’s affiliated projects because nobody started using it over Electron… and a lot of the rest are extremely niche (like viewing websites in 3d, cool but not all that useful).
The same now with mozilla.social. nobody is using it
